Python Forum - Print output not working

Dear All,

i started studying python and i have been facing some issues with command print. I will do an exaple:

>>>print=('Hello World') + inv
>>>

When i put the above command in the idle i do not get the output string which should be >>>"Hello World"

Can you help me please?

try

print(f'Hello World {inv}')

or

print('Hello World', inv)

(Jan-14-2021, 12:09 PM)Axel_Erfurt Wrote: [ -> ]try

print(f'Hello World {inv}')

or

print('Hello World', inv)

Dear Axel,

thanks for your help,i really appreciated that. Finally it's working by this option (f'Hello World') + inv

(Jan-15-2021, 09:04 AM)xninhox Wrote: [ -> ]Finally it's working by this option (f'Hello World') + inv

can you show your exact code, so that we can explain better why this is far from optimal.

>>>print=('Hello World')
>>>
>>>print=(f'Hello World')
>>>

Still not working with both options. The second one was working at the first attempt but now i have the same issue.

Dear moderator, i hope i used the BBcode properly. If not, sorry about that.

Can anyone help me and clarify why i have been facing this issue please?

please disregard, i know where i am wrong. According to my notes i have to put = but they are wrong. Please accept my apologies

There are multiple issues/misunderstandings, apart from not using BBCode tags right.

You are using python interactive shell at the moment (that is having >>> when you write code). This is good for experiments, but normally you would write your code in a file, save that file with .py extension and run it. Using interactive shell makes a difference because each line is evaluated the moment you hit Enter. In other words - at the moment you don't print. I guess it "worked" because you missed the print= part and it just evaluated the expression (f'Hello World') + inv.
print is a function, you need to call it, supplying 1 or more arguments (note, there are functions that will take no arguments, but print requires at least one).
when you do print=('Hello World') you are doing an assignment. Note that in (Hello World') the brackets are redundant. it's the same as if you are doing print='Hello World'. Now, name print has value 'Hello World' (it's a poor name, because it overrides the built-in function, but I know you didn't mean to).
```
>>> print=('Hello World')
>>> print
'Hello World'
>>> 
```
Note, this is NOT printing, it evaluate and display name print.
@Axel_Erfurt in his post #2 show you what you have to do. There are other possible approaches. In his first example, he pass f-string (from formatted-string) f'Hello World {inv}' as single argument to print() function. That is what will be printed. Note that we assume you already have defined name inv. If you did not - this will cause error.
```
>>> inv = 'World'
>>> f'Hello {inv}'
'Hello World'
```
Again, this is not printing, it just evaluates the f'Hello {inv}' and replace {inv} with value of inv and display the result.

In the second he pass arguments to print function. As a result, when print()` function is executed, it prints all arguments, separated by space. You can change that behavior and specify different separator, but that's yet another thing.
There are multiple ways to construct a string from different parts. The f-strings are the latest addition to so called string-formatting`.
now, you need first to restart your python interactive shell, if you didn't do so yet, so that you can fix the problem with print() function being overriden by your assignments.
```
>>> inv = 'World'
>>> print(f'Hello {inv}')
Hello World
```
now, this is printing. Do you see the difference? in the previous example there were single quotes around Hello World and here there are none.
As I said better work in a file, not in the interactive shell, so that you don't lose your work, you can make small changes and run the file again and see what happens.
In your post you said it worked with (f'Hello World') + inv. I already mentioned that brackets are redundant here, but also the f is redundant, because you are not doing any string formatting (no {} inside the string). So it's the same as 'Hello World' + inv. This is string concatenation and it will work only if inv is also str, if it is e.g. number int it will not work.

All that said, I strongly advise you to find a tutorial and follow it, so that you get familiar with the very basic concepts. Otherwise it will be hard and time-consuming.

For the tags - look again at the link in my moderator note.

EDIT: OP solved their problem, but I already have written this extensive post, so I will keep it.

(Jan-15-2021, 10:28 AM)buran Wrote: [ -> ]There are multiple issues/misunderstandings, apart from not using BBCode tags right.
You are using python interactive shell at the moment (that is having >>> when you write code). This is good for experiments, but normally you would write your code in a file, save that file with .py extension and run it. Using interactive shell makes a difference because each line is evaluated the moment you hit Enter. In other words - at the moment you don't print. I guess it "worked" because you missed the print= part and it just evaluated the expression (f'Hello World') + inv.

print is a function, you need to call it, supplying 1 or more arguments (note, there are functions that will take no arguments, but print requires at least one).
when you do print=('Hello World') you are doing an assignment. Note that in (Hello World') the brackets are redundant. it's the same as if you are doing print='Hello World'. Now, name print has value 'Hello World' (it's a poor name, because it overrides the built-in function, but I know you didn't mean to).
>>> print=('Hello World')
>>> print
'Hello World'
>>> 
Note, this is NOT printing, it evaluate and display name print.
@Axel_Erfurt in his post #2 show you what you have to do. There are other possible approaches. In his first example, he pass f-string (from formatted-string) f'Hello World {inv}' as single argument to print() function. That is what will be printed. Note that we assume you already have defined name inv. If you did not - this will cause error.
>>> inv = 'World'
>>> f'Hello {inv}'
'Hello World'
Again, this is not printing, it just evaluates the f'Hello {inv}' and replace {inv} with value of inv and display the result.

In the second he pass arguments to print function. As a result, when print()` function is executed, it prints all arguments, separated by space. You can change that behavior and specify different separator, but that's yet another thing.
There are multiple ways to construct a string from different parts. The f-strings are the latest addition to so called string-formatting`.
now, you need first to restart your python interactive shell, if you didn't do so yet, so that you can fix the problem with print() function being overriden by your assignments.
>>> inv = 'World'
>>> print(f'Hello {inv}')
Hello World
now, this is printing. Do you see the difference? in the previous example there were single quotes around Hello World and here there are none.
As I said better work in a file, not in the interactive shell, so that you don't lose your work, you can make small changes and run the file again and see what happens.

In your post you said it worked with (f'Hello World') + inv. I already mentioned that brackets are redundant here, but also the f is redundant, because you are not doing any string formatting (no {} inside the string). So it's the same as 'Hello World' + inv. This is string concatenation and it will work only if inv is also str, if it is e.g. number int it will not work.
All that said, I strongly advise you to find a tutorial and follow it, so that you get familiar with the very basic concepts. Otherwise it will be hard and time-consuming.

For the tags - look again at the link in my moderator note.

EDIT: OP solved their problem, but I already have written this extensive post, so I will keep it.

Hi Buran,

thank you for this heads up, i love this community and sorry again for the wrong BB code used