Actually @Alfalfa I have never used the Designer -- learning to use a tool that produced questionable code when I can -- once I learned the basics -- produce that same code just as quickly and/or quicker manually means that tool does nothing for me -- which has been my experience most of the time with such tools. Note these kind of tools that produce ugly code have been around for a long time in numerous languages -- but thankfully they are fairly easy to spot and when I spot one I generally steer clear of it as in my experience it is often better to produce the code yourself rather than rely on something that creates code that ugly.
Further my experience thus far with what the Designer produces is something newbies cannot use effectively and I have stated before it ought to come with a warning -- not to be used by newbies. Many times they cannot implement the basics because they cannot understand what it is they produced due to how ugly that code is -- heck I have converted over a dozen of those and I find translating them to still be difficult.
Now I had looked at what my predecessor produced using the Designer and I looked at what many others have created using the Designer and my impression of that tool stands -- it produces basically horrible looking code -- however if you have a demonstration of creating a fairly complicated window using the Designer that does not produce horrible looking code -- and that uses the Layout system as it should be used I would be very interested in seeing it. And I would even be willing to alter my stance on it but no one has been able to do that to date and I am not going to waste my time trying to figure out a tool I do not need.
Further my experience thus far with what the Designer produces is something newbies cannot use effectively and I have stated before it ought to come with a warning -- not to be used by newbies. Many times they cannot implement the basics because they cannot understand what it is they produced due to how ugly that code is -- heck I have converted over a dozen of those and I find translating them to still be difficult.
Now I had looked at what my predecessor produced using the Designer and I looked at what many others have created using the Designer and my impression of that tool stands -- it produces basically horrible looking code -- however if you have a demonstration of creating a fairly complicated window using the Designer that does not produce horrible looking code -- and that uses the Layout system as it should be used I would be very interested in seeing it. And I would even be willing to alter my stance on it but no one has been able to do that to date and I am not going to waste my time trying to figure out a tool I do not need.