*args and Tuples

[millpond]

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def func(*items):      print(type(items))      a=list(items)      print(type(a))      a[3]= 1026      for i in a:          print i   items=[1,3,7,9,-99,555,88] func(*items[:])

I am trying to pass a list into *args(*items) and it insists on unpacking it into a tuple, whose immutability makes manipulation of data nigh impossible without converting it into a list.

In all examples I see the default usage of *args is to print, or do some things fairly useless. Being new, I might have overlooked something blazingly obvious - which is why I put this question here:

Is conversion to tuple in *args functions default behaviour for list(array) arguments?
And is there a simple way to call variable arguments and have them default to mutable data types? A decorator?

[Gribouillis]

Is conversion to tuple in *args functions default behaviour

Yes python always uses a tuple for the arguments in a function call. If you want a list, just add a line

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def func(*items):     items = list(items)     ...

[millpond]

Thank you for confirming that suspicion.

I will inscribe:
def func(*items):
items = list(items)

With my biggest, thickest magic marker into my notebook.

In all the books and videos I have on teaching python this fundamental rule has not been mentioned, unless I was braindead while I glossed over it!

Its a critical one for me. For my purposes, tuples make little sense, as mutable lists(arrays) are one of the main purposes for me even bothering to learn python.

[Gribouillis]

For my purposes, tuples make little sense

In that case, it may be preferable to use a single array argument, for example

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def func(items, spam, eggs):     items[1] = 3.14   func([10, 11, 12], 'foo', 'bar')

[joe_momma]

the * args is used to pass a number of arguments. the *items is not the list you created below. tutorial on *args **kwargs
If you want a list passed to your function then just pass a list:

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def func(my_list):     my_list[3]= 1026     res= []     for i in my_list:         res.append(i)     return res          items=[1,3,7,9,-99,555,88] new_item= func(items) print(new_item)

Output:
[1, 3, 7, 1026, -99, 555, 88]

if a list is not passed then it will throw an error.