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Have you considered adding a section for MicroPython?
#1
Sure, I know hardly anyone uses MicroPython but for entirely selfish reasons I would like to see a section on this forum for MicroPython.

Of course I am familiar with https://forum.micropython.org/. But frankly they could use some competition. Also, because MicroPython is essentially a subset of Python many python-forum.io users who answer questions on this forum could probably properly answer MicroPython questions even if they had never actually used MicroPython. Finally, MicroPython on the ESP32 is—for many applications—more efficient (quicker and easier to write) and more effective (due to the power of the ESP32) than C/C++ on Arduino.
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#2
We have discuss before to have section(forum) for the collective group of Raspberry Pi, Arduino, MicroPython...ect.
It may happened we create a forum if we get more thread about these topics.
Now do most these these have own forums,so most traffic for this is on there own forums.
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#3
(Oct-05-2021, 07:49 PM)snippsat Wrote: We have discuss before to have section(forum) for the collective group of Raspberry Pi, Arduino, MicroPython...ect.
It may happened we create a forum if we get more thread about these topics.
Now do most these these have own forums,so most traffic for this is on there own forums.

Thanks for letting me know. I appreciate that.
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#4
In addition - at the moment we have section like GUI, Web Development, Networking, etc. and still majority of questions that fit into these categories are posted in General Coding Help and team members have to move them into correct subforum or just leave them where they are.
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(Oct-06-2021, 04:54 AM)buran Wrote: In addition - at the moment we have section like GUI, Web Development, Networking, etc. and still majority of questions that fit into these categories are posted in General Coding Help and team members have to move them into correct subforum or just leave them where they are.


The category GUI, Web Development, Networking, etc is so vague and general that when I first saw that category I was confused. Those three items do not normally go together. I suppose they should be in three separate categories.

I think I understand what GUI and Web Development mean but, frankly, Networking—at least to me—is a vague term vis-a-vis Python. Does it mean TCP/IP? UDP? HTTP? A LAN (local area network). Is it related to hardware such as Cisco switches?

The following is a scathing rant. Feel free to ignore it. See, I loathe most engineers because they tend to be ignorant and self-centered.

When engineers run organizations, they almost invariably mismanage them. You guys need a non-technical person in charge of this website. Yeah. An "evil" non-technical guy who won't do things the "convoluted engineering way."

Look. Ok? People can't read your minds. You guys created an absurd category yet seem to resent people misunderstanding it. What if I made a category of three things: string, milk, and fish. Don't you see the "obvious" connection between those three things.

Wait. Hold on. What? You don't understand that that string, milk, and fish are all things cats normally like. Gee. I'm shocked. Isn't that obvious. See? You would have needed to have read my mind (be a mind reader) to have understood the category.

It's as if you guys are implicitly saying...

"We are going to save the world with a free website (which people will use to help them make money) and rely on volunteers to fritter away their time doing unnecessary routine clerical work because our philosophy of life is so utterly, totally, and completely ridiculous that we expect ordinary people to read our minds."

First, you guys need to get a non-businessman to run this website. Expecting people to volunteer their time to save the world violates human nature. Figure out how to generate revenue. For example, perhaps allow users to pay bounties.

Then use some of that revenue to pay employees to run this site properly. You know what employees are. Right? They are truly "evil" people who work in order to do truly evil things like provide food, clothing, and shelter for their families.

Let me guess. Perhaps you think, "There should be no employees! We should all be starving, naked, and homeless!!" "Don't tell us what to do, we know what we are doing! We are engineers!! I'm an engineer I'm always right "

I've have watched countless well-intentioned volunteer efforts fail over the years. I'm not saying you need to become cutthroat capitalists who prioritize profits above all else. But this site can and should be properly managed. Perhaps you don't realize that many non-profit companies (such as a charities to help the poor) often generate revenue (earn money).

This site could easily become a non-profit company, be run by competent manager (not an engineer), generate revenue, pay employees, and help more people.

"Oh NOOOO!!! We don't want to do that! We are volunteers!! This is a volunteeeeeeeer website! We are saaaaaaving the world!" Ummmmm. Hmmmm. Well. Errrrr. Guess what? This website will either gradually become irrelevant or be purchased (yeah, the domain can be sold) by a competitor.

Earning money is not inherently evil. Neither are competent professional managers. Sure. Many people lie, cheat, and steal to obtain money. And, of course, competent professional managers are rare. But, what's the alternative?

Let me guess....

"We will stay the course! We don't need your advice!! We know what we are doooooing!!! We are engineeeeeers!!! Besides, we are too busy to waste our precious time arguing with you because, well, see, ummm, we need to wake up tomorrow and go to work because, ummmmm, well, we need to earn some money."

I despise most engineers because they are generally ignorant and self-centered.

This website could be great. Instead, you guys are allowing it to languish because of your foolish philosophy. StackOverFlow helps myriad people yet it is for-profit (normal) business. I urge you to turn this website into a non-profit, appoint a non-engineer to manage it, and start generating revenue (earn money) so you can help more people for a longer period of time.
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(Oct-06-2021, 06:16 AM)Tiel Wrote: The category GUI, Web Development, Networking, etc is so vague and general that when I first saw that category I was confused. Those three items do not normally go together. I suppose they should be in three separate categories.
These are 3 different subforums, not one. I don't know how you get confused or where you saw that category, if you looked at the home page of the forum.
And we have help section that explains the forum structure.

Although I appreciate you took time to write this long post or shall I say rant it looks you confused this thread about forum structure and your other post about paid service/bounty.
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#7
(Oct-06-2021, 06:42 AM)buran Wrote:
(Oct-06-2021, 06:16 AM)Tiel Wrote: The category GUI, Web Development, Networking, etc is so vague and general that when I first saw that category I was confused. Those three items do not normally go together. I suppose they should be in three separate categories.
These are 3 different subforums, not one. I don't know how you get confused or where you saw that category, if you looked at the home page of the forum.
And we have help section that explains the forum structure.

Although I appreciate you took time to write this long post or shall I say rant it looks you confused this thread about forum structure and your other post about paid service/bounty.

(Oct-06-2021, 06:42 AM)buran Wrote:
(Oct-06-2021, 06:16 AM)Tiel Wrote: The category GUI, Web Development, Networking, etc is so vague and general that when I first saw that category I was confused. Those three items do not normally go together. I suppose they should be in three separate categories.
These are 3 different subforums, not one. I don't know how you get confused or where you saw that category, if you looked at the home page of the forum.
And we have help section that explains the forum structure.

Although I appreciate you took time to write this long post or shall I say rant it looks you confused this thread about forum structure and your other post about paid service/bounty.

You are wrong. I did not confuse the threads. Perhaps you confused the threads.

You apparently ignored almost everything I wrote.
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#8
(Oct-06-2021, 07:16 AM)Tiel Wrote: You are wrong. I did not confuse the threads. Perhaps you confused the threads.
This one titled Have you considered adding a section for MicroPython? is about creating MicroPython sub-forum. Your rant is predominantly about offering bounty/paid service in order to generate revenues, which you suggested in this thread Why not allow users to offer paid bounties?! So, it's not me who is confused.
If you can't explain it to a six year old, you don't understand it yourself, Albert Einstein
How to Ask Questions The Smart Way: link and another link
Create MCV example
Debug small programs

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