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Skaperen · (This post was last modified: Nov-29-2017, 08:14 AM by Skaperen.)

i am wondering how many of my friends can check this exact URL for me:

http://oracle.com/guaranteed

note that this is without the "www." on the front of the host name. maybe even try:

http://oracle.com/

it's not working for me. does it work for you? if it does work for you, did the "www." part get added on? i saw this URL advertised on twitter in a tweet from Oracle with the #reinvent hashtag meant to "hit" AWS users. but it didn't work until i manually added the "www." part. it looks like their redirect is broken.

**buran** · (This post was last modified: Nov-29-2017, 09:46 AM by buran.)

yes, both work for me, on Firefox.
For quite some time I don't type in www when write in address bar of the browser

DeaD_EyE · Nov-29-2017, 10:32 AM

The webserver is doing a redirect to http://www.oracle.com/

andre@andre-GP70-2PE:~$ nc oracle.com 80
GET /
HTTP/1.0 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.oracle.com/
Connection: close
Content-Length: 0

Many webadmins are using the permanent redirects to have a canonical url and not 20 different.

Skaperen · Nov-30-2017, 02:58 AM

i do my redirects the other way ... www.example.com -> example.com

the oracle.com website still fails for me. here is what i get from firefox. here is what i get from lynx:

Output:lt1/forums /home/forums 6> lynx -mime_header http://oracle.com/
HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
Server: AkamaiGHost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 209
Expires: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 02:34:03 GMT
Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2017 02:34:03 GMT
Connection: close

<HTML><HEAD>
<TITLE>Invalid URL</TITLE>
</HEAD><BODY>
<H1>Invalid URL</H1>
The requested URL "[no URL]", is invalid.<p>
Reference #9.6402655f.1512009243.1c345aa9
</BODY></HTML>
lt1/forums /home/forums 7>

i think webmasters need a tool that can show them what their site delivers without going over to another hostname. i use lynx as that tool. it has shown me my exact issue when i've had them. that way i can get it fixed so it works in all browsers that do HTTP and HTML in a resonable way. i do consider a browser that tries the other hostname if there is a failure or error to be reasonable. it's just not suitable as a thorough testing tool.

try one of the text browsers on it, yourself. what do you get from which browser?

i think it might be nice to create a Python script that can test all the many (there are a lot) possible website issues and report exactly what is wrong (if anything) and for well understood common issues, say how to fix it.

DeaD_EyE · Nov-30-2017, 09:25 AM

(Nov-30-2017, 02:58 AM)Skaperen Wrote: i do my redirects the other way ... www.example.com -> example.com

...

try one of the text browsers on it, yourself. what do you get from which browser?

I get following:

andre@andre-GP70-2PE:~$ lynx -mime_header http://oracle.com/
HTTP/1.0 301 Moved Permanently
Location: http://www.oracle.com/
Connection: close
Content-Length: 0

Probably it's not a middleware between you and the webserver. I think it's an issue related on your geo location.
AkamaiGHost stands for Akamai Global Host, it's a cdn. You should contact oracle if you need to solve this issue.
What you can try is using a VPN where the endpoint is in another country and try it again.

Quote:i think it might be nice to create a Python script that can test all the many (there are a lot) possible website issues and report exactly what is wrong (if anything) and for well understood common issues, say how to fix it.

Yes, it's possible. You can detect many issues. But then you've to understand HTTP, HTTPS, TLS (Handshake), different Webserver/VHost configurations etc. It's a long list. So when you write a tool for checking all possible issues, you know after this the protocols very good :-)

There are also issues based on your ISP/location, which needs external resources to check for this issue also.

Skaperen · (This post was last modified: Dec-01-2017, 03:25 AM by Skaperen.)

i can believe it is a geolocation issue. yes, checking geo based cdn will be a complex issue, both for cdn providers and cdn customers. imagine me complaining to either oracle or akamai and they tell me it works fine for them in a dozen browsers. i'd have to tell them to try from my provider (178.18.80.0/20).

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