Learning python with LPTHW

[Larz60+]

I have 5th edition, 1500+ pages (Needs to be split into two volumes). and it does still have python 2 and python 3 in parallel

[diemildefreude]

@[snippsat]

I recommend Thinks CS, personally, and (non-free) Beginning Python by Magnus Lie Hetland (Apress). The former is good because it has exercises for each chapter, and the latter is good because there are whole chapters on projects. I think the two together are pretty good.

What's bad about Learn Python the Hard Way? What other tutorials would you suggest instead?

The strictness of avoiding Python 3 at all cost is to me utterly ridiculous.
Even newer stuff that work in Python 2.6--> like new string formatting,he want use.
All over the book is the weird(for beginner) formatting codes for %-style formatting.
Not gone mention more,it's a list here :shh:

I recommend Thinks CS, personally, and (non-free) Beginning Python by Magnus Lie Hetland (Apress). The former is good because it has exercises for each chapter, and the latter is good because there are whole chapters on projects. I think the two together are pretty good.

yes agree.
It's a lot mixed stuff out there,we have list here.

The "Think CS" tutorial directed me towards a github page for downloading the PyScripter, but it didn't have an .exe and had complicated instructions for compiling it... I found another download at sourceforge https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyscrip...p_redirect that has an installer, but, after installing it, opening the .exe does nothing. Any ideas about what to do? My Windows version is 64 bit but my Python version is 32 bit, so this latter download should work...

[micseydel]

I haven't used Windows for years, and the tutorial has been updated since I used it. I think the updates have been mostly bad. When I have time, I plan to do a review of the tutorial and potentially give new programmers tips on how to use the tutorial better. Don't have time for that right away, unfortunately.

[diemildefreude]

I haven't used Windows for years, and the tutorial has been updated since I used it. I think the updates have been mostly bad. When I have time, I plan to do a review of the tutorial and potentially give new programmers tips on how to use the tutorial better. Don't have time for that right away, unfortunately.

Ah, well I'm getting tired of starting new tutorials at this point anyway, so I guess I'll continue with either LPTHW or this one: https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/appetite.html

The latter seems more informative, but sometimes it introduces new things without explaining them and I end up having to dig around in the appendices...

[sparkz_alot]

I haven't used Windows for years, and the tutorial has been updated since I used it. I think the updates have been mostly bad. When I have time, I plan to do a review of the tutorial and potentially give new programmers tips on how to use the tutorial better. Don't have time for that right away, unfortunately.

Ah, well I'm getting tired of starting new tutorials at this point anyway, so I guess I'll continue with either LPTHW or this one: https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/appetite.html

The latter seems more informative, but sometimes it introduces new things without explaining them and I end up having to dig around in the appendices...

The link you provided points to Python v 2.7.12, is that the version you have installed? Sorry, I don't recall at the moment if you ever said  :razz:

[diemildefreude]

I haven't used Windows for years, and the tutorial has been updated since I used it. I think the updates have been mostly bad. When I have time, I plan to do a review of the tutorial and potentially give new programmers tips on how to use the tutorial better. Don't have time for that right away, unfortunately.

Ah, well I'm getting tired of starting new tutorials at this point anyway, so I guess I'll continue with either LPTHW or this one: https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/appetite.html

The latter seems more informative, but sometimes it introduces new things without explaining them and I end up having to dig around in the appendices...

The link you provided points to Python v 2.7.12, is that the version you have installed? Sorry, I don't recall at the moment if you ever said  :razz:

2.7.11... I guess I need to update it!

[diemildefreude]

Yikes, I've gotten to lesson 16 of LPTHW and the confusion of terminology really is starting to annoy me. He briefly tells you that "features" are actually "modules", "commands" are actually "functions", etc., but then goes back to using the wrong terms. It feels bad to keep starting over with new tutorials, but I might go ahead and try "Think CS" - I imagine it should be fine if I use Atom (text editor) in conjunction with Cmder instead of the scripting software used in the tutorial.

[buran]

I have 5th edition, 1500+ pages (Needs to be split into two volumes). and it does still have python 2 and python 3 in parallel

At some point I tried to read/follow it. But it is WAY TOO WORDY... Repeats and repeats and repeats stuff. At the end I was really not able to stand it any more and just dropped it.

[Kebap]

Yikes, I've gotten to lesson 16 of LPTHW and the confusion of terminology really is starting to annoy me. He briefly tells you that "features" are actually "modules", "commands" are actually "functions", etc.

It's not like we didn't warn you on page 1 of this thread..

See list of LPTHW complaints: http://sopython.com/wiki/LPTHW_Complaints

I really like the hands-on no-knowledge-required approach, but the mistakes lessen success

[demosthenesk]

Here is the Youtube version of LPTHW
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...AuwGV_4BNS