Oct-11-2016, 03:04 AM
I have 5th edition, 1500+ pages (Needs to be split into two volumes). and it does still have python 2 and python 3 in parallel
Learning python with LPTHW
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Oct-11-2016, 03:04 AM
I have 5th edition, 1500+ pages (Needs to be split into two volumes). and it does still have python 2 and python 3 in parallel
Oct-12-2016, 12:08 PM
(Oct-10-2016, 07:04 AM)micseydel Wrote: @[snippsat] (Oct-10-2016, 09:34 AM)snippsat Wrote:(Oct-10-2016, 03:35 AM)diemildefreud e Wrote: What's bad about Learn Python the Hard Way? What other tutorials would you suggest instead?The strictness of avoiding Python 3 at all cost is to me utterly ridiculous. The "Think CS" tutorial directed me towards a github page for downloading the PyScripter, but it didn't have an .exe and had complicated instructions for compiling it... I found another download at sourceforge https://sourceforge.net/projects/pyscrip...p_redirect that has an installer, but, after installing it, opening the .exe does nothing. Any ideas about what to do? My Windows version is 64 bit but my Python version is 32 bit, so this latter download should work...
Oct-12-2016, 02:50 PM
I haven't used Windows for years, and the tutorial has been updated since I used it. I think the updates have been mostly bad. When I have time, I plan to do a review of the tutorial and potentially give new programmers tips on how to use the tutorial better. Don't have time for that right away, unfortunately.
Oct-12-2016, 04:53 PM
(Oct-12-2016, 02:50 PM)micseydel Wrote: I haven't used Windows for years, and the tutorial has been updated since I used it. I think the updates have been mostly bad. When I have time, I plan to do a review of the tutorial and potentially give new programmers tips on how to use the tutorial better. Don't have time for that right away, unfortunately. Ah, well I'm getting tired of starting new tutorials at this point anyway, so I guess I'll continue with either LPTHW or this one: https://docs.python.org/2/tutorial/appetite.html The latter seems more informative, but sometimes it introduces new things without explaining them and I end up having to dig around in the appendices...
Oct-12-2016, 07:35 PM
(Oct-12-2016, 04:53 PM)diemildefreude Wrote:(Oct-12-2016, 02:50 PM)micseydel Wrote: I haven't used Windows for years, and the tutorial has been updated since I used it. I think the updates have been mostly bad. When I have time, I plan to do a review of the tutorial and potentially give new programmers tips on how to use the tutorial better. Don't have time for that right away, unfortunately. The link you provided points to Python v 2.7.12, is that the version you have installed? Sorry, I don't recall at the moment if you ever said :razz:
If it ain't broke, I just haven't gotten to it yet.
OS: Windows 10, openSuse 42.3, freeBSD 11, Raspian "Stretch" Python 3.6.5, IDE: PyCharm 2018 Community Edition
Oct-12-2016, 10:43 PM
(Oct-12-2016, 07:35 PM)sparkz_alot Wrote:(Oct-12-2016, 04:53 PM)diemildefreude Wrote:(Oct-12-2016, 02:50 PM)micseydel Wrote: I haven't used Windows for years, and the tutorial has been updated since I used it. I think the updates have been mostly bad. When I have time, I plan to do a review of the tutorial and potentially give new programmers tips on how to use the tutorial better. Don't have time for that right away, unfortunately. 2.7.11... I guess I need to update it!
Oct-18-2016, 05:27 AM
Yikes, I've gotten to lesson 16 of LPTHW and the confusion of terminology really is starting to annoy me. He briefly tells you that "features" are actually "modules", "commands" are actually "functions", etc., but then goes back to using the wrong terms. It feels bad to keep starting over with new tutorials, but I might go ahead and try "Think CS" - I imagine it should be fine if I use Atom (text editor) in conjunction with Cmder instead of the scripting software used in the tutorial.
Oct-18-2016, 08:54 AM
(Oct-11-2016, 03:04 AM)Larz60+ Wrote: I have 5th edition, 1500+ pages (Needs to be split into two volumes). and it does still have python 2 and python 3 in parallel At some point I tried to read/follow it. But it is WAY TOO WORDY... Repeats and repeats and repeats stuff. At the end I was really not able to stand it any more and just dropped it.
Oct-18-2016, 11:23 AM
(Oct-18-2016, 05:27 AM)diemildefreude Wrote: Yikes, I've gotten to lesson 16 of LPTHW and the confusion of terminology really is starting to annoy me. He briefly tells you that "features" are actually "modules", "commands" are actually "functions", etc. It's not like we didn't warn you on page 1 of this thread.. See list of LPTHW complaints: http://sopython.com/wiki/LPTHW_Complaints I really like the hands-on no-knowledge-required approach, but the mistakes lessen success
Oct-19-2016, 06:01 PM
Here is the Youtube version of LPTHW
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL...AuwGV_4BNS |
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