Python 3.12 cannot import local python files as modules

[sunflowerdog]

Do this see if it load frozen_importlib_external.PathFindet loads.

>>> import sys
>>> sys.meta_path
[<_distutils_hack.DistutilsMetaFinder object at 0x0000022BD615F800>,
 <class '_frozen_importlib.BuiltinImporter'>,
 <class '_frozen_importlib.FrozenImporter'>,
 <class '_frozen_importlib_external.PathFinder'>]

Make a virtual environment as shown before in post under 3.
This to see if it same error is here,virtual environment is like new light Python version.
Then when environment is active.

G:\div_code\project_env
(project_env) λ python
Python 3.12.2 (tags/v3.12.2:6abddd9, Feb  6 2024, 21:26:36) [MSC v.1937 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>>
>>> sys.path
['', 'G:\\Projects', 'G:\\div_code', 'G:\\div_code\\project_env', 'C:\\python312\\python312.zip', 'C:\\python312\\DLLs', 'C:\\python312\\Lib', 'C:\\python312', 'G:\\div_code\\project_env\\Lib\\site-packages']

Output:
C:\>python                                                                                                              
Python 3.12.4 (tags/v3.12.4:8e8a4ba, Jun  6 2024, 19:30:16) [MSC v.1940 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32                        
>>> import sys                                                                                                          
>>> sys.meta_path                                                                                                       
[<class '_frozen_importlib.BuiltinImporter'>, <class '_frozen_importlib.FrozenImporter'>, <class '_frozen_importlib_external.PathFinder'>]     

Output:
C:\code_1>python -m venv project_env                                                                                                                                                                                                            
C:\code_1>cd project_env                                                                                                                                                                                                                        
C:\code_1\project_env>Scripts\activate.bat                                                                                                                                                                                                      
(project_env) C:\code_1\project_env>python                                                                              
Python 3.12.4 (tags/v3.12.4:8e8a4ba, Jun  6 2024, 19:30:16) [MSC v.1940 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32                        
>>> import bar                                                                                                          
Traceback (most recent call last):                                                                                        
   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>                                                                                   
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'bar'                                                                              
>>> from project_env import bar                                                                                         
Traceback (most recent call last):                                                                                        
   File "<stdin>", line 1, in <module>                                                                                   
ModuleNotFoundError: No module named 'project_env'   

Wasn't sure where to put bar.py or main.py here but it doesn't seem to work no matter what.
Not really surprised considering my other fresh installations haven't been any different. If it's an issue with my installation it's got to be something persistent that doesn't get changed when installing/uninstalling/setting up virtual environments. But I have no clue what that could even be.
I'm tempted to just open a virtual machine to see if maybe I need to just reinstall my entire operating system. Though at that rate I'll probably just move my projects over to another computer.

[snippsat]

You should try Miniconda to see if that fix the problem.
It's a full Python distortion with pip and also conda(which is a good bonus).
Quick test.

G:\miniconda312
λ python
Python 3.12.4 | packaged by Anaconda, Inc. | (main, Jun 18 2024, 15:03:56) [MSC v.1929 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>>
>>> sys.path
['', 'G:\\Projects', 'G:\\div_code', 'G:\\miniconda312', 'G:\\miniconda312\\python312.zip', 'G:\\miniconda312\\DLLs', 'G:\\miniconda312\\Lib', 'G:\\miniconda312\\Lib\\site-packages']
>>>

So it finds G:\\miniconda312 as it should when i test.

[sunflowerdog]

You should try Miniconda to see if that fix the problem.
It's a full Python distortion with pip and also conda(which is a good bonus).
Quick test.

G:\miniconda312
λ python
Python 3.12.4 | packaged by Anaconda, Inc. | (main, Jun 18 2024, 15:03:56) [MSC v.1929 64 bit (AMD64)] on win32
Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>>> import sys
>>>
>>> sys.path
['', 'G:\\Projects', 'G:\\div_code', 'G:\\miniconda312', 'G:\\miniconda312\\python312.zip', 'G:\\miniconda312\\DLLs', 'G:\\miniconda312\\Lib', 'G:\\miniconda312\\Lib\\site-packages']
>>>

So it finds G:\\miniconda312 as it should when i test.

I would rather if default Python just worked as intended. I see no reason why programs wrapping around Python would work but Python itself would not. Honestly to me, the stuff you've been recommending seem like unnecessary programs that I would rather not have on my system. If they work for you that's cool, and you should use them! But I would much rather get default Python to work first before trying out other tools. I would prefer an actual fix over a bodge. If bodges are my only option here, then I will simply switch to a more reliable operating system.

[snippsat]

Just to mention there also Microsoft Python 3.12,which it's the same one as from pytnon.org just that Microsoft dos the distribution.
It's strange problem,maybe not worry so much about this problem if can add folder with eg PYTHONPATH or site module as posted before.

[sunflowerdog]

Just to mention there also Microsoft Python 3.12,which it's the same one as from pytnon.org just that Microsoft dos the distribution.
It's strange problem,maybe not worry so much about this problem if can add folder with eg PYTHONPATH or site module as posted before.

I'll check that out and update here if it helps at all.
Bypassing the issue isn't a bad idea on face value, I just worry what other problems there are with my installation and what other issues I'll be tracking down later. I would personally just feel a lot more comfortable knowing my installation is working correctly.

[sunflowerdog]

Just to mention there also Microsoft Python 3.12,which it's the same one as from pytnon.org just that Microsoft dos the distribution.

This did fix the issue. However I still think I'm going to switch OS to avoid these issues in the future